Guessing Post
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That's a wrap for the main round of gifts! Thank you so much for another wonderful round of Holmestice! The mods want to say THANK YOU to all the creators who joined us for this round. You put in a lot of hard work and made some wonderful things.
Reveals and the Master List go up on December 21st! Until then, please enjoy and comment on all the lovely fanworks. Creators, please do NOT respond to comments on DW or post your fanwork elsewhere until reveals go up in the community. (You may of course post to our AO3 Winter 2017 Holmestice collection, which preserves your anonymity. You may reply to AO3 comments, as well.)
The main round of gifts are all posted, but we're not done yet -- we have several days of treats coming up! We'll continue to accept treats right through until reveals, so if there's a prompt out there that intrigues you and you want to whip something up for it, please do! Just send it to [email protected], using the regular submission guidelines.
If you'd like to guess at who created what in this round, a list of all the creators is below the cut. Go ahead and take a guess! It's all in good fun.
a_different_equation
alexcat
amindamazed
ancientreader
angelqueen04
armchair_elvis
brilliantlyburning
clearinghouse
colebaltblue
discordantwords
dryadinthegrove
elareine
freebirdflying
gardnerhill
graycardinal
iwantthatcoat
jeremy_holmes
language_escapes
magnetic_pole
miss_violet_hunter
monkiainen
navaan
nottoolateforthegame
okapi1895
oldshrewsburyian
penaltywaltz
phoenixfalls
pip_pn_frodo
pipmer1
pocketbookangel
sanguinity
sanspatronymic
scfrankles
sjames_centre
smallhobbit
solrosan
starfishstar
tripleransom
trobadora
WhouffleLover24
write_out
wssh-watson
Go forth and leave love for your fellow Holmestice authors, artists, and podficcers. See you again on the 21st, when we reveal who made what!
Reveals and the Master List go up on December 21st! Until then, please enjoy and comment on all the lovely fanworks. Creators, please do NOT respond to comments on DW or post your fanwork elsewhere until reveals go up in the community. (You may of course post to our AO3 Winter 2017 Holmestice collection, which preserves your anonymity. You may reply to AO3 comments, as well.)
The main round of gifts are all posted, but we're not done yet -- we have several days of treats coming up! We'll continue to accept treats right through until reveals, so if there's a prompt out there that intrigues you and you want to whip something up for it, please do! Just send it to [email protected], using the regular submission guidelines.
If you'd like to guess at who created what in this round, a list of all the creators is below the cut. Go ahead and take a guess! It's all in good fun.
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Go forth and leave love for your fellow Holmestice authors, artists, and podficcers. See you again on the 21st, when we reveal who made what!
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Date: 2017-12-16 02:06 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-12-16 03:45 pm (UTC)No big guessing post from me this time, because I'm so far behind on reading that I'm pretty much just getting started. BUT I would like to register the one guess I have so far:
I think
That's all I've got; hopefully more later in the week.
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Date: 2017-12-16 07:15 pm (UTC)Is she really, though? *goes back to eating popcorn*
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Date: 2017-12-16 05:57 pm (UTC)Pipmer guess from Iwantthatcoat--who is locked out of DW for forgetting their password...again
Date: 2017-12-16 06:23 pm (UTC)I'm...going with the Four Times Sherlock Holmes Lied and One Time He Told the Truth as yours?
Adorable and makes me smile....sounds like you. :)
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Date: 2017-12-16 07:02 pm (UTC)I don't know why, exactly.
Instinct?
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Date: 2017-12-16 09:59 pm (UTC)It is very, very likely that I won't have enough spare hours to compile my usual Spreadsheet of Doom this year, what with a combination of holidays, a busy workweek, winding up Yuletide, *and* a spot of jury duty theoretically scheduled for Friday. In any event, a spreadsheet might not help much this year, what with all the newfolk and the amazing diversity of material in the round.
That said, I will certainly be back to guess in a day or so. And I think that I've probably achieved one of my primary goals this year, which was to write something that did not immediately and unequivocally appear to have my byline stamped all over it. I fully expect that at least two people other than the mods will peg my story correctly...but I also fully expect at least two people to credit me as having written something that I didn't actually write.
I wonder if
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Date: 2017-12-17 01:04 am (UTC)But I'm also terrible at guessing...
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Date: 2017-12-17 11:11 pm (UTC)OK - a few guesses to get started.
The Five Doctors: Come on - this is definitely by
The Case of the Sleeping Servants: Must admit I guessed this was by
The Cake Dilemma: I think this is by
A Ride in the Park: I was reading this and enjoying the crossdressing and the erotic tension, and I managed to completely miss another important theme. I’d got to He will be mounted on a striking chestnut gelding with two white fore-legs, and I thought to myself, “Why are these colour terms so flaming confusing? Let’s see… ‘Chestnut’ is the colour of wet sand… A ‘bay’ is the colour of a chestnut…” Whereupon my brain yelled ‘HORSES!’ at me. This fic has clearly been written by someone who knows their stuff in this area. Which immediately made me think that it must be by
Nanti Polari: The More Holmes ‘verse and the quality of the writing made me wonder if this might be by one or other of the More Holmes writers I already knew. But the style did seem entirely unfamiliar to me. And I noticed a couple of idiosyncratic uses of formatting that I hadn’t come across before - instead of an em dash, the writer uses a double hyphen and then adds a space before typing the next word. Also, they favour ellipses but they seem to be inconsistent in how they choose to use them - sometimes they add a space afterwards, sometimes they don’t.
Armed with this knowledge, I looked back at the sign-ups, found who had offered to write in the Rathbone films ‘verse and then went to AO3 to look at their fics. (I genuinely don’t get out much.) And on my third attempt I think I hit gold. I found a writer who was an excellent possible match for the style, and for the formatting. I am pretty confident the writer is
As Romeo to Juliet (podfic): Well, this sounds like sanguinity’s voice so I assume it’s by
I’m completely stuck at the moment on who’s written my own gift fic but I’ve got a few clues that I’m going to use to investigate further, and I will make a guess before the reveal. And I have to say that
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Date: 2017-12-18 01:05 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-12-18 09:44 pm (UTC)"Old Haunts" is amazing and a new favorite. I'll have to reread it, but I think you may be correct.
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Date: 2017-12-21 11:38 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-12-18 06:40 am (UTC)Okay-that's all I've got for now-I need to finish reading and then go back and try to find the fic that reminded me of one of the new authors I just read.
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Date: 2017-12-18 10:35 am (UTC)It only occured me AFTER making the rec lists that some writer might ONLY reblog and/or like the rec list they contributed too (or at best, the one they recieved). MY idea was more the following: when/if all contributors of Holmestice like and reblog ALL lists, ALL work will get more traffic. Or, at least, when BBC is reblogged (because it has ca 100 notes already), people will might look up the other entries on Ao3 or here.
But yeah... the notes on tumblr are VERY revealing. One could easily - especially when starting with ACD adaptations - at least name the contributors. Plus the discription on their tumblr (Mary Russell etc.) --- observe and deduce.
Yeah... if it had been the gift that keeps on giving (aka everyone reblogging/liking ALL FOUR LISTS), we all would never know ;)
But how does BBC SHERLOCK say: "It is what it is".
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Date: 2017-12-18 05:59 pm (UTC)But... something about the writing style and formatting for the lovely "Burnt Wool and Viscum Album" makes me think it must have been written by
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Date: 2017-12-18 09:38 pm (UTC)I've already said this, but Ancientreader is my guess for my fantastic gift "You Are as Far as Invention, and I Am as Far as Memory." (can't link properly as I'm on my phone)
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Date: 2017-12-18 11:42 pm (UTC)Police of Penzance: I was puzzled by who had written this one but there were some clues for me to go on. There is a little American English in it. The author is knowledgeable about ACD canon and is comfortable writing an ACD Holmes. But there are also at least three nods to the Sherlock ‘verse, which suggests to me that the author sees Sherlock as their main Sherlock Holmes fandom. And of course, they really, really know their way around a joke ^__^
So this led me to make the assumption that their sign-up would offer ‘ACD’, ‘Sherlock’ and ‘humor’ - and possibly ‘crossover’. This didn’t narrow creators down a great deal but it did narrow them down a bit. I looked at some people’s other fics but I wasn’t really making a match. In the end I did have someone pencilled in as my guess because we seemed a pretty good match in general, but it turned out they’d dropped out of the exchange. I had also previously made the assumption my gift fic was unlikely to be a pinch-hit. Doing a crossover would be adding an unnecessary layer of difficulty when time was tight, the fic was fairly long (though as the creator points out, parts were taken complete from Pirates), and the unrevealed fic appeared in my AO3 gift list pretty soon after the deadline.
However, I have now had reason to revise this assumption ^_^ nottoolateforthegame let me know that iwantthatcoat had let it slip they’d written two fics - which put them back onto my list of possible authors. I went back and looked at the formatting for ‘Police of Penzance’. And it has to be said it is far more idiosyncratic than the formatting for ‘Nanti Polari’ - there are em dashes as well as double hyphens, and there is a lot of variation in how ellipses are used. But there are a fair number of ellipses and the pattern ‘word, double hyphen, space, word’ does occur eight times.
So taking this information and going by the quality of the jokes and the quality of the fic in general, I’m going to say ‘Police of Penzance’ is a pinch-hit by
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Date: 2017-12-19 02:51 am (UTC)Very scientific! I'm curious as to who you believe
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Date: 2017-12-20 05:31 pm (UTC)sewing her skin together as i sew mine: I think this is by
The Fixed Foot: I think this is by my colleague in guessing,
The State of His Mind: OK, I’m going to be bold. I’m going to say this is by
A Woman Is Herself: Apart from the recipient, nobody mentions this ‘verse in their sign-up, but I think the beta for the fic may have given the game away. A little bit of sideways Googling and I found that
Insoluble Puzzles: So I assume this has to be by
Choice of Exit: You know, I really resisted matching this fic to a particular author. Because it seemed too obvious an answer - this writer and recipient were the only two who had mentioned this ‘verse, and the recipient had written for this writer last time. Also, there was the author note Holmes and Moriarty as time-travelling actors - how could I resist? This suggested to me that the writer had only recently read the novel - had decided on it after getting their assignment. So for a long time I thought the author was pocketbookangel - a lot of people don’t rule out Holmes/Moriarty but pocketbookangel is one of only three who explicitly rule it in. In their offers they mention BBC Sherlock Sherlock/Jim and they also mention being willing to write incest - in this fic Holmes and Moriarty have a quasi-incestuous relationship.
But I just couldn’t track down the fic for the writer I had originally rejected, and they’ve commented on all other possibilities. Sometimes the simplest answer is the correct one. I think the author of this fic is
Candid Review of a Fine Play: This was a tricky one. Only four people mention Coules in their sign-ups - the recipient, two people who’ve left kudos on AO3, and one person who I’ve got pegged as being very busy elsewhere. So it had to be someone who hadn’t offered the ‘verse.
I’d already made myself a list of people who’d offered More Holmes ‘verses and these were the creators who sanguinity was likely to have been matched with. I was able to cross some people off by a process of elimination, then I had a look at fics for some of the creators who were left. And I think I’ve made a match on style and quality but I’ve also made a match on author replies, looking at vocabulary and regularly used phrases. So my guess is
And I think that'll do for now. I might have one last go later on this evening ^_^
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Date: 2017-12-20 10:04 pm (UTC)However, I'd like to now toss into the mix a "true if possibly misleading fact," as
You made a guess for "Insoluble Puzzles" based on someone who offered one half of that crossover (Mary Russell, but not Charlotte Holmes). So I do feel I ought to point out that there's one, and only one, person who offered Charlotte Holmes in this current round of Holmestice, and that person is...me.
And while I didn't put Mary Russell in my sign-up, the fact remains that I was an obsessive reader of those books as a teen.
[twirls mustache, scurries back to my own in-process guessing spreadsheet...]
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Date: 2017-12-21 01:05 am (UTC)ELEMENTARY
• The Five Doctors – definitely
• An L.A. Story –
• if you come to find out who you are – maybe
• After All Is Said And Done (written for colebaltblue, who didn’t exactly request Elementary, so the writer probably matched on something else, ACD or Granada? but I’m not sure who)
MARY RUSSELL
• sewing her skin together as i sew mine (Mary Russell/Enola Holmes) –
• The State of His Mind – (can only be angelqueen04 or graycardinal; scfrankles says graycardinal, but I don’t know his work well enough to be sure)
• Insoluble Puzzles (Charlotte Holmes/Mary Russell) – either angelqueen04 OR someone who matched on graycardinal for something else but decided to give these ‘verses a go
A STUDY IN EMERALD
• “How different, how very different, from the home life of our own dear Queen!” – perhaps
• A Scandal in Britannia – perhaps
EXIT SHERLOCK HOLMES
• Choice of Exit –
BERT COULES
• Candid Review of a Fine Play – either iwantthatcoat out of the pool of Coules-offerers (though scfrankles has quite determinedly placed them elsewhere!) or someone who matched with sanguinity based on something else
I defer to scfrankles’ expertise on Nanti Polari (Rathbone) and I have no idea about The Pomeranian Affair (Ritchie) – though I think it’s between ArmchairElvis, miss_violet_hunter and monkiainen?
Two mystery fandoms, that appeared in the works despite not being in the sign-ups! Lady Sherlock and Newman Moriarty…I want to know who wrote them!
Not going to speculate on MDBD, since it’s a small pool and I’ve already been named as a suspect. ;-)
GRANADA/ACD
• The Charm of the Season –
• The Midnight Caller – but here I have no idea!
That's the small fandoms; ACD/BBC post in a moment.
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Date: 2017-12-21 01:16 am (UTC)• The Problem of the Untold Story –
• I Am the Girl for Her – if
• The Mystery of the Human Heart – maybe
• A Combination of Events –
• A Ride in the Park –
Don’t know about the rest of the ACD entries…but everything scfrankles has said sounds solid!
BBC
• You Are as Far as Invention, and I Am as Far as Memory –
• I, Spy? – perhaps
And…that’s all I’ve got. Lots of the other BBC guesses made by others sound right to me, but I certainly can’t claim to have thought of them myself.
Whew! Bedtime for this very tired Holmestice-guesser.
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Date: 2017-12-21 03:41 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-12-21 09:31 am (UTC)If it is possible for the mods to move it down here where it belongs, I'd appreciate it, however silly it makes me look.
[zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz]
Graycardinal's Guesses
Date: 2017-12-21 01:59 pm (UTC)All the cookies are delivered, almost all the wrapping is done, and there are but a few scant moments left to guess at the authorship of various of the stories posted this round. As stated earlier, I have not prepared anything resembling a Spreadsheet of Doom™; this time round, it will all be sheerest speculation -- and perhaps even now, a touch of Jedi mind trickery. :-)
Some of these guesses are purely, well, guesses. Some, however, have actual deductions behind them.
ACD (& versions thereof)
The Charm of the Season -
Candid Review of a Fine Play -
ACD / Crossovers
A Case of Identities -
Police of Penzance -
Yet another true (and not so misleading) fact: many years ago I sat across at least one convention filk circle from gardnerhill -- though neither she nor I were wearing our current handles at the time. (This would have been at Baycon in the '80s, within a year or so of the Great Fire Drill Adventure.) And it's specifically because of that musical background that I suspect her of being behind "Police of Penzance". (Assuming it wasn't me, that is.)
We associate scfrankles with stories involving a particular sort of wit and comic adventure, and it's for this reason that I'm going to tag him for this round's Doctor Who crossover, complete with dueling disguises, an improbably accurate scalpel, and the Master welded into a torpedo casing. (One has to admire Mycroft's respect for the Master's gift of escape artistry....)
Elementary
The Five Doctors -
An L.A. Story -
If gardnerhill didn't write "Five Doctors" (and I think it's unlikely she did, precisely because it does hit so many of the same notes as her story from the prior round), then sanguinity seems to me by far the likeliest candidate among our known players to have been the mind behind it.
Russell (& Friends)
The State of His Mind -
Insoluble Puzzles -
sewing her skin together as I sow mine -
I have an advantage here, as one of the reasons we have more Russell stories this round is, in fact, that I invited the folks at Letters of Mary over to our sandbox. Thus I know who out of the present pool would be likely to have had one of the LoM mods as their beta, and that's a fairly definitive clue. And if I'm persuaded -- as I think I am -- by the arguments elsewhere for language_escapes as author of the Enola/Russell crossover, then I must also be persuaded by the bit of true-but-misleading observation that there was only one offerer for Charlotte Holmes this time out. (As a practical matter, of course, there are other candidates -- notably sanguinity. But Araminta's story doesn't feel like a sangunity story to me, and besides, I've already penciled our erstwhile mod in above. (Also, sanguinity and I have written enough stories for one another these last few rounds that I'd think she's an unlikely match for me)
And now to bed; we shall see what the morning brings.
Re: Graycardinal's Guesses
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Date: 2017-12-21 05:42 pm (UTC)I am guessing that AngelQueen wrote "The State of His Mind", as others have done. I have no reason for this guess, other than it being a sheer guess and it's one of the ones I've had an opportunity to read so far.
I am guessing that armchair_elvis wrote "if you come to find out who you are". It feels like some of the stories they have written in the past; there is no real logic behind this guess, just a feeling.
Someday I hope to be as scientific as so many of you are in your guesses, but that day has not yet come!